tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post5690261865790985585..comments2024-03-19T07:36:33.915-04:00Comments on Of Battered Aspect: Casual CrueltyDave Hingsburgerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11918601687946534172noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-4257498269010230892016-11-28T22:16:01.421-05:002016-11-28T22:16:01.421-05:00Thank you, Dave, I appreciate your making that adj...Thank you, Dave, I appreciate your making that adjustment.<br /><br />RebeccaBelleSouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15526478236366524579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-29313167471344517112016-11-28T12:09:56.514-05:002016-11-28T12:09:56.514-05:00I have an idea. Let's just eradicate the use o...I have an idea. Let's just eradicate the use of the "r" word and any of it's "...tard"<br />derivatives. It's hateful language, no matter the target. Namastehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17112422892814370357noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-55868645902147586072016-11-28T09:53:38.825-05:002016-11-28T09:53:38.825-05:00I tend to travel in politically active circles on ...I tend to travel in politically active circles on social media. The suffix you refer to is often used by both 'sides' of the political fence. I find it disheartening because once ad hominem attacks occur . . . discourse is over. Ron Arnoldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05852385982605070675noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-52150058910789323052016-11-27T15:37:47.603-05:002016-11-27T15:37:47.603-05:00I have no problem with that request. Done.I have no problem with that request. Done.Dave Hingsburgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11918601687946534172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-5599122903089664402016-11-27T15:33:48.192-05:002016-11-27T15:33:48.192-05:00Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it. I still...Thank you for your reply, I appreciate it. I still think, however, that given the voluminous climate of hateful language used by both "sides", this paragraph could have easily been less accusatory towards conservatives as a group by stating simply "But the uptick in that particular word is noticeable and, by and large, of course, by,<b> SOME</b> conservatives or conservative minded people." and omitting "of course". <br /><br />In working to create a better climate of discourse in the tatters of the past two years, I think it requires we pay special attention to words which may influence readers in ways that they don't realize. You indeed did not state all conservative use this word, but you also did NOT state the opposite either.<br /><br />I really hope that you are equally motivated to be fair in language involving conservatives, just as I would encourage conservatives to consider the language used when discussing liberals.BelleSouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15526478236366524579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-39991557695135203472016-11-27T14:45:55.349-05:002016-11-27T14:45:55.349-05:00BelleSouth ... the words 'of course' were ...BelleSouth ... the words 'of course' were there because the word 'libt*rd' is typically used by conservatives about liberals, I was speaking of the fact that the use of the word pretty much sums up the political bent of the speaker. I also never stated that all conservatives use this word, I know that isn't true. I have conservative family members who would never speak this way. But, I think my assertion is that those who use it about liberals are probably conservatives makes sense, and these conservatives state the values I mentioned in the post ... I know this because I read the comments that frame the use of the word 'libt*rd.' I am glad that you do not mock or victimize others, and it was not my intention to speak of anyone but those conservatives who use that kind of language. I am glad you raised your point so I could clarify, I hope you are equally motivated to speak up to those who use this kind of language regarding liberals or people with disabilities.Dave Hingsburgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11918601687946534172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-74423497784640646402016-11-27T14:35:23.853-05:002016-11-27T14:35:23.853-05:00As a person who has an invisible illness, and also...As a person who has an invisible illness, and also a person who "stands with the church and with God", I am saddened to see that in your otherwise keen observations about the lack of thought which permeates such a ugly word as "libt*rd", you have proceeded to practice the same self righteousness. While I abhor the usage of such a word, I am not happy that you have painted with a broad brush anyone who may be conservative as "spewing hatred" and "mocking people who hurt." Just because one is liberal does not indicate that person deserves this ugly epithet, but by the same coin, just because one is conservative does not earn the ugliness of being tarred by a brush which should be deserved for a specific person or persons. I do not hate, I do not mock people, I do not victimize, but your words in the following paragraph certainly tells me it's all right to hate me, victimize me or mock me. I think this part of your otherwise excellent essay should be reworded, unless what you are saying is that tolerance does not apply in the liberal's view of a conservative minded person.<br /><br />"But the uptick in that particular word is noticeable and, by and large,<b> of course,</b> by conservatives or conservative minded people. The people who stand with the church and with God. The people who talk about morals and scruples. The people who see everything as black and white. Those people are the people who seem so comfortable with spewing hatred. Those are the people who seem so comfortable mocking people who they hurt. Those are the people who love to victimize others and then say that their victims are victims of their own thin skin, their own sensibilities or their own self righteousness." (emphasis mine)BelleSouthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15526478236366524579noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-6879564379790342432016-11-27T11:33:44.137-05:002016-11-27T11:33:44.137-05:00Dave, I have noticed (and, ALWAYS, commented on) a...Dave, I have noticed (and, ALWAYS, commented on) an increase in the use of -"t*rd (republi-, lib-) by others in social media. I don't know if what I'm observing is an increase or a function of me participating in more and larger groups post-11/9. Probably both! Curiously, most of the people using -t*rd are folks I agree with politically, saying things like "call me a libt*rd if you will..." As I said, I unfailingly call people out when they use offensive language. In one instance, a woman apologized profusely--said she knows better and won't use slurs like that again. Most of the time I don't get a response. Trying to spread awareness, one Facebook post at a time, in this weird new world. kstablefordhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16443269467016190248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-6028550755532569502016-11-27T08:34:41.492-05:002016-11-27T08:34:41.492-05:00The casualness of people who say hurtful things au...The casualness of people who say hurtful things automatically, as if they had the right to dump on anyone they don't like, is the scary part.<br /><br />2016 was a very bad year for civil discourse - and the media lapped it all up and promoted each new lie everywhere - making truth and civilization a loser, just when things seemed to be getting slightly better in the world for the 'different' in any way.<br /><br />The magnitude of the damage - I can walk away or click away but it doesn't make the people doing this change - seems like the aftermath of a war.<br /><br />It is not all right. Escalating - and saying things I can't forgive - is the opposite of what we need to do, and makes it all that much harder.<br /><br />It is enough to make you despair. <br /><br />Please keep pointing out the good and the bad. We need to keep working for improvement, even though I don't see how.ABEhrhardthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17211038591900883672noreply@blogger.com