tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post2667895995921033764..comments2024-03-29T03:43:45.977-04:00Comments on Of Battered Aspect: Oh, Frigging, PleaseDave Hingsburgerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11918601687946534172noreply@blogger.comBlogger19125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-82092666868423138632013-01-28T21:18:10.066-05:002013-01-28T21:18:10.066-05:00Tamara - i wish you would share.
I have a disabili...Tamara - i wish you would share.<br />I have a disability and have worked with parents of kids with disabilities. SO many of them sound just like Anonymous at 10:48 - and yes, 'regular' people do too but i find parents in general to be really invested in this type of thought. challenge them and they get nasty.<br />'regular' folks seem more willing to listen or just let the issue go even if they don't truly get it.<br />i've decided to switch careers it bothers me so much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-62518299031211299232013-01-24T17:03:25.174-05:002013-01-24T17:03:25.174-05:00Good news. The next time my doctor says "it&...Good news. The next time my doctor says "it's time to up the meds" I'll tell him that he's interfering with my ability to inspire!<br /><br />I'm sure the inspired nurses in the psych ward will be high-fiving me all the way to the padded room.trainspotterhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07808920446636134809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-45583449872881104192013-01-24T12:51:19.013-05:002013-01-24T12:51:19.013-05:00Moose - I found "If you need a disabled perso...Moose - I found "If you need a disabled person to find inspiration, I suggest therapy." to be exceedingly amusing ... Even wrote it down in my book ... :-) <br /><br />I do appreciate your perspective on this type of meme, Dave. I just have such a hard time coming up with the words that describe why I find these sentiments distasteful. As another mom with a son with Down syndrome, I see the sentiments expressed by Anonymous at 10:48 constantly, and I feel like it's so demeaning to people with disabilities, yet I know that is not their intent. <br /><br />I have my own opinions on the reasons for this, but they're rather harsh and I think I need to think about them for a few more years before they mature enough to share ... :-)Tamarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04624151975591059655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-35401498658232916442013-01-23T02:32:38.285-05:002013-01-23T02:32:38.285-05:00Yeah, CapriUni, it's likely fabricated as you ...Yeah, CapriUni, it's likely fabricated as you say. Else I'd bet the chair was just placed there and the woman in it is able-bodied.<br /><br />I think the image cries out to be made <i>demotivational</i> ala Despair, Inc. I'd love for this one to be re-captioned based on just how ridiculous the picture and current text are. Could be delicious.<br /><br />I hadn't thought the things in your last paragraph. True, though. It says, "Who I am is not important; I'm disabled and we disabled people are here wholly for the benefit of people who aren't disabled! Hooray!" Erases her as a person; presents her as a thing.Bethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-64635951417114901442013-01-23T00:03:11.286-05:002013-01-23T00:03:11.286-05:00Following on Beth's comment about the chair be...Following on Beth's comment about the chair being wholly inappropriate for the environment:<br /><br />That's the main reason I suspect that picture was digitally fabricated: <br /><br />1) image of a disabled person in an "inspiring" pose (check!)<br /><br />2) background with an "inspiring" theme/landscape (check!)<br /><br />3) Motto or caption that makes the "normal" citizen feel proud of alienating others (Check!) [translation: "They like it when you stare at them, honest!"] (Check)<br /><br />End product: an image that will get hot-linked all over Facebook and earn the maker extra traffic and monies? (Check!) <br /><br />Mission accomplished!<br /><br />Seen from the perspective of Disability Culture, though, this image is thoroughly enlightening, especially as the woman has our back to us and is utterly anonymous: her identity as a living human being with a face and mind of her own are totally irrelevant. And in that way, it's a perfect symbol for the prejudice we are up against in society.CapriUnihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16906524679880178584noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-73652210237178421092013-01-22T23:17:28.881-05:002013-01-22T23:17:28.881-05:00Arg! Having disabilities, not being miserable, and...Arg! Having disabilities, not being miserable, and managing to accomplish some things from time to time aren't inspirational qualities. Doing for others, boldly speaking truths at cost, even speaking up for myself when I've been pressured to stay silent, those are some ways I can be inspirational. Existing with disabilities isn't.<br /><br />Something I've noticed (mostly through forums): most of the people who call me "inspirational" for living are also members of the group that, when talking about various disabilities (outside responding to me) say they "couldn't live like that" or "would rather die than" have some condition. So they call me inspirational while thinking my life is not worth living. Oh, not <i>my</i> life, they'd insist, just this kind of life that happens to be mine. Sure. Anyhow, the percentage of people who say the first also saying the second has been great enough that I must presume anyone who tells me I'm inspiring for doing normal tasks also thinks my life isn't worth it. If I "inspire" them by living, I certainly don't cause them to "aspire" to do the same in my place. I find this disgusting.<br /><br />On the picture:<br />The woman appears to be in a standard manual wheelchair. It's not gonna get anywhere on the sands before her. I find it ironic that people are supposed to find inspiration in someone who can't move any further due to inappropriate equipment. What's next, someone in lead boots on a high-dive? But the people this'd "inspire" wouldn't understand, I guess.<br /><br /><b>j.proulx2</b>, no, the person in the wheelchair wasn't being inspirational simply by being out in the cold (though perhaps the reason for such could be). Yes, if the journalist could have done so without demeaning the person, it would be good to interview them. Winter precipitation and simple cold weather present unique challenges to people using wheelchairs. It would have been good to acknowledge the existence of people with mobility problems, it'd be nice to have some variety, and perhaps the interview would bring some correctable issues into the public eye.Bethnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-65144822194572657902013-01-22T23:00:45.853-05:002013-01-22T23:00:45.853-05:00I laughed out loud at that "meme".
Inte...I laughed out loud at that "meme".<br /><br />Interesting perspective in the comments.Shanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704810407872873565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-15495545471018465922013-01-22T22:03:10.612-05:002013-01-22T22:03:10.612-05:00Don't swing by here very often, but I couldn&#...Don't swing by here very often, but I couldn't resist the title of this post. Hell, YES! I find that just as offensive as the opposite. "I feel so sorry for (disabled person)." I recently snapped at my mother when she said this recently about a friend of mine. She was appalled and it completely went over her head when I told her that was patronizing. Dorahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16255190971670471758noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-2164063447744226572013-01-22T18:43:09.699-05:002013-01-22T18:43:09.699-05:00On Global's newscast last night, there was a s...On Global's newscast last night, there was a segment on Winterpeg (Winnipeg). In interviewing several people on how they survive, in the distance someone struggling in a wheelchair was visible...but wasn't interviewed. Should they have been? Were they inspirational? Not sure how I feel in this -40 degree weather as I sit in my work office without heat as the furnace has broke down :( Sometimes we humans don't make sense. At least this poster was done on a warm beach :)joann:)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14377333491749182391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-16849020840830483532013-01-22T17:14:03.241-05:002013-01-22T17:14:03.241-05:00My Mom
Is constantly sending me that stuff in ema...My Mom <br />Is constantly sending me that stuff in emails and sending me to watch videos of other people with disabilities. I have tried to explain to her why these stories or the way she discribes them to me push all my buttons. ICK On the other hand I saw a video of a young boy named matt competing in his schools field day. I'm sure a lot of you also saw it. Everyone had finished and he was still running determined to finish as well. His classmate who were sitting and standing around went back and ran again with him and cheered him on. That gave me chills because it was spontaneous and wonderful and something the children did without prompting. It was only caught on video because one of the parents was filming the event. There was no ick factor to me in his story being passed around like that because not only was his determination to finish awesome, but his classmates 4 & 5 graders mind you give me hope for the future of inclusion Lauranoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-4727706024942703662013-01-22T10:53:33.265-05:002013-01-22T10:53:33.265-05:00Gag me with a spoon. Nuff said.Gag me with a spoon. Nuff said.wendynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-76740579086623951052013-01-22T10:48:03.850-05:002013-01-22T10:48:03.850-05:00I will be honest and say that I am inspired by peo...I will be honest and say that I am inspired by people with disabilities, their families and those who work with them. I'm old enough to know of a time when people with disabilities were hidden away, and many times believed that that's how it was supposed to be. That they had no place in the world. That they couldn't or shouldn't do things on their own or inhabit their own space. Heck, there are stories about these attitudes in the news and on this blog even now. There is vulnerability attached to being disabled (which you, Dave, have enumerated at least five times in the past month alone--the cheese incident, the "lost marbles" dressing down), and anyone who puts themselves into a position of vulnerability in defiance of it is brave and inspiring, at least to some of us. I can't say everyone I know would put themselves into a similar situation of vulnerability.<br />Likewise those who are moved to work with those with disabilities. The good ones (and heaven knows that isn't all of them) *are* angels. I do think it takes something special to want to help a population that is underserved, no matter what the reason, and to do it well and to afford those you are working with dignity and grace. As the mother of a child with DS I find great inspiration in those who are willing to treat my son as an individual who is and will be capable of many things, and equally deserving of personhood as anyone else. (Even some members of his/my own family don't see it that way, so for a stranger to assign him that kind of value is "angelic" in my opinion.)<br /><br />Maybe it is like your post about kindness from about a week ago. Maybe the issue is not that it isn't anything special--but that it *shouldn't be* but because of its rarity, it is.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-29707074734250590082013-01-22T10:35:22.760-05:002013-01-22T10:35:22.760-05:00OH gods, yes.
That's right, people. All of my...OH gods, yes.<br /><br />That's right, people. All of my illnesses and disability are solely existing so you can tell me how "brave" and "inspiring" I am.<br /><br />I've taken to saying: If you need a disabled person to find inspiration, I suggest therapy.Moosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10397412122635951126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-83220537937259930242013-01-22T10:33:36.694-05:002013-01-22T10:33:36.694-05:00The first thing I notice is that she can't get... The first thing I notice is that she can't get to the water. She's probably lifting her arms at frustration that the beach isn't accessible. <br /><br /> We visited the beach at Lake Michigan last summer, and I was so happy they had a pathway out to the water. It was a kind of woven mat and was uneven but passible. Only it ended 30 feet from the water. So I had to sit at the end of the path and watch my daughter wade, but couldn't get my own feet wet.<br /><br />SharonAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-31842168095537030812013-01-22T07:45:16.975-05:002013-01-22T07:45:16.975-05:00I just hope that is not Sue Austin in that photo. ...I just hope that is not Sue Austin in that photo. If it is I totally give up!Colleennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-20187898461474050212013-01-22T07:30:28.802-05:002013-01-22T07:30:28.802-05:00I think you're inspirational for a number of r...I think you're inspirational for a number of reasons, but the fact that you move around the world in a wheelchair and wait for the bus by yourself is NOT one. haha. Sorry Dave! <br /><br />One of my professors said something about how "children with down syndrome don't grow up and they're so sweet all the time" and I looked at him and said "I spent time this summer with a group of MEN with Down syndrome, and they are very much men. Not children. Not boys. MEN." <br /><br />I keep my eyes peeled when I'm out and about for accessibility. I think "ooo, Dave would like this bathroom!" or "Oh this curb cut is in such a weird place!" You've opened my eyes, not to the trite celebration of things like waiting for the bus, but for the need to make sure that things are ACCESSIBLE! Mollyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15881590483174001768noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-7235005977170905272013-01-22T06:45:00.384-05:002013-01-22T06:45:00.384-05:00I worked in direct service for about 14 years when...I worked in direct service for about 14 years when I first graduated from college. I remember how surprised I was the first time I was told I was special for working in that field with "those people." My second-favorite saying was "There's a lot of love there." I used to think about that as someone was cursing at me, or exhibiting some of their more challenging behaviors. Yep, a lot of love.<br /><br />Does anyone remember the story that circulated the internet several years ago about the children who stopped playing their baseball game and "allowed" a disabled child (who wasn't on a team, of course) to hit a fake home run and run around the bases while everyone in the stands cheered? I think it was called something like "Run, Shay, Run!" or something like that. It was clear that the purpose of the story was to give the reader a chance to feel good about themselves and the sentimental view of the kindness of children to their disabled brethren. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-20740611569840382572013-01-22T06:08:19.130-05:002013-01-22T06:08:19.130-05:00here here!here here!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-54359773573606858622013-01-22T06:00:59.193-05:002013-01-22T06:00:59.193-05:00Direct Support Professionals who work with people ...Direct Support Professionals who work with people with disabilities are very commonly referred to as "angels" and "God's hands"! I have been a DSP and have been educating DSPs for many years....they are NOT angels! They are trained professionals(most) who choose to work in the human services as equals and supporters. It is the same sentiment as in this "inspirational poster"..apparently people with disabilities are in another category of citizen-hood. People with disabilities "require" patience and a "special" person to help them (if they should happen to need such ongoing support). Furthermore, the condescending and arrogant manner in which many view the Direct Support Professional is as damaging and ridiculous as the poster you share with us today. Here, here....oh, friggin, please.John R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09855575688523179265noreply@blogger.com