tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post1631048073183691432..comments2024-03-19T07:36:33.915-04:00Comments on Of Battered Aspect: Not So Long AGODave Hingsburgerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11918601687946534172noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-40567699070050665942010-02-23T12:28:10.225-05:002010-02-23T12:28:10.225-05:00Oy! We have already planned a visit to King Tut fo...Oy! We have already planned a visit to King Tut for March 15. I think I will call the AGO to ask about accessibility just for shits 'n' giggles. Accessibility isn't an issue for our family, but it's sure an issue for the world as a whole.Fun Mumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-86462204986363172092010-02-22T19:24:41.939-05:002010-02-22T19:24:41.939-05:00It's really not much better here in the US. ...It's really not much better here in the US. The translation of the badly worded Americans with Disabilities Act always seems to come out as, "Do as little as possible with as much hand-waving as we can." I love it when I point out the problems and get a nose tilted up in the air, with, "We have MADE accommodations!"Moosehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10397412122635951126noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-14486320542032792632010-02-22T13:16:27.832-05:002010-02-22T13:16:27.832-05:00Dear Dave:
Umm - aren't we supposed to be imp...Dear Dave:<br /><br />Umm - aren't we supposed to be implementing the service section of the AODA? The AGO is a public building, covered I think by the service section of the AODA. <br /><br />I wonder if a letter to a member of the opposition in provincial parliament might be in order?<br /><br />Dave, I'm really sorry you had to encounter these barriers. I can see how this would wear a person down.<br /><br />ColleenColleennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-16939524640470962832010-02-21T18:35:07.408-05:002010-02-21T18:35:07.408-05:00I'm sorry this happened to you. It really is u...I'm sorry this happened to you. It really is unacceptable how not only are some places totally inaccessible, the people in charge then try to 'spain things. The Yoda quote is fitting. As a Star Wars fan, I loved seeing it. May the Force be with you.<br />Word verification: forusTheWiredOnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10603161451462354948noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-3543917146756589382010-02-21T13:43:09.745-05:002010-02-21T13:43:09.745-05:00I must say both Dave and Joe were amazing.. I was ...I must say both Dave and Joe were amazing.. I was shaking cause I was sooo mad! That guy repeated himself to Dave, only LOUDER, cause Dave didn't jump up and run off, I guess.<br /><br><br />The door was impossible. I actually can't imagine that it meets fire safety regulations... It was like a funnel. The wall was RIGHT in front of you as you entered. I mean REALLY close. My scooter wouldn't have made it, although the guy was saying that other "machines like that" do it all the time.<br><br />People were trying to push and pull the chair to "help", it was really stressful! Dave seemed calm, but I know it was a difficult situation, handled with grace and effectiveness.<br /><br><br />I am looking forward to seeing the repsonse, and am planning to send a letter myself too. Cause Dave inspires me to not just look the other way.<br /><br><br />And the display WAS great! But don't bother looking up the skirts on the statues. sigh<br><br />TessaTessanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-87595471906678255462010-02-21T12:51:33.161-05:002010-02-21T12:51:33.161-05:00Someone named Anonymous beat me to it -- us Deaf f...Someone named Anonymous beat me to it -- us Deaf folks don't like shouting either. Even asides from the sound distortion effect, people also move their mouths very differently when they shout as compared to when they just talk naturally. Shouting makes it far more difficult to lipread you.<br /><br />I seriously doubt there is ANYone with ANY disability who finds it helpful to be shouted at. <br /><br />The only conceivable exception I can think of is a person with a relatively mild hearing loss (ie, a hard of hearing person) who, for whatever reason, isn't wearing their hearing aid. And even then, the "benefit," as Anonymous points out above, is hardly universal for all hard of hearing people. Many deaf and hard of hearing people (not all, but many and maybe most) do have an auditory processing disorder in addition to the hearing loss that can cause sound to be, not just quieter, but also distorted. This can limit the potential benefits of amplification. Up to a certain point, amplification MIGHT help (which is why many of us do wear hearing aids in the first place), but beyond that point, as Anonymous says, it's just amplifying static, which is useless and even counterproductive.<br /><br /><b>Hint:</b> If we're wearing a hearing aid, then we ALREADY HAVE whatever amplification we need or want, to the exact quantity we need it. If we're not wearing a hearing aid, then that's probably because amplification is useless for us. Either way, shouting doesn't help!Andrea S.http://wecando.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-67314944980444885882010-02-21T12:22:23.354-05:002010-02-21T12:22:23.354-05:00People who are deaf shake their heads at being sho...People who are deaf shake their heads at being shouted at; they can't hear shouting either. Those of us who are hearing impaired don't like it either since it tends to distort sounds rather than make it easier to hear. It's like turning up the volume on static. All you get is louder static. This museum needs a lot of help.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-19163031492728431062010-02-21T11:46:11.106-05:002010-02-21T11:46:11.106-05:00update, letter is written and sent ... will let yo...update, letter is written and sent ... will let you know what happensDave Hingsburgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11918601687946534172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-87977271611553397402010-02-21T11:27:47.653-05:002010-02-21T11:27:47.653-05:00of course they had to yell and talk slowly because...of course they had to yell and talk slowly because OBVIOUSLY if you are in a wheelchair you must be mentally disabled as well. oh and I forgot you must live with your parents too even though you are an adult. why are people so ignorant? I have disabled children and someone I know who has not even been by to MEET them assumes that they will live with me forever. they are still young enough to use a stroller but I know all these issues are coming our way. Thanks for sharing your experiences.MoonDoghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11707506968348810606noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-58710041193340670512010-02-21T11:09:09.940-05:002010-02-21T11:09:09.940-05:00Go, Dave. I'm glad you got to see the exhibit...Go, Dave. I'm glad you got to see the exhibit but sad you missed the film and the gift shop (those are fun). <br /><br />I love the Yoda quotation--very fitting.FridaWriteshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03321658097813377806noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-53019633721193711542010-02-21T08:19:46.570-05:002010-02-21T08:19:46.570-05:00Ridiculous situation. The accessibility part is ba...Ridiculous situation. The accessibility part is bad enough, but why in the world would anyone think that a person using a wheelchair need to be spoken to slowly and loudly? What is with that? It seems like it happens to you a lot.Tamarahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04624151975591059655noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-2402730953825178932010-02-21T08:19:27.718-05:002010-02-21T08:19:27.718-05:00I wonder if a letter should also go to the buildin...I wonder if a letter should also go to the building department at City Hall - they afterall are responsible for approving the renovations. It sounds like the new legislation on accessibility is restricted to ensuring someone can get in the door, once inside its like access doesn't apply anymore. The same issues apply to the Roger Centre (Skydome) and CN Tower - special elevators, wait for security guards to escort, etc. It just reinforces the "difference" mentality. I know it gets tiresome to always write and it often feels like things don't change but remember the ballet - they listened and made changes. Hope the response is similar here!Manuelanoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-66957221212008674512010-02-21T01:26:54.269-05:002010-02-21T01:26:54.269-05:00I'm so sorry - how utterly disappointing! To t...I'm so sorry - how utterly disappointing! To think that a NEWLY renovated building would not have a better layout...it boggles the mind. Thank you, though, for sharing your experience. I was actually hoping to go and see the Tut exhibit, but now I'll have to rethink. Maybe I'll write a letter, asking them to let me know when the "art is for everyone" policy actually comes into effect.Brendahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16171428636839043425noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-2139401939036756382010-02-21T00:57:52.365-05:002010-02-21T00:57:52.365-05:00Ugh! So sorry that turned out this way. :( Mayb...Ugh! So sorry that turned out this way. :( Maybe a copy of your letter to the editor of your local papers would help too - that way if the letter gets "lost" once it gets to the museum - at least the museum board will see it in the paper......along with everybody else. ;)<br /><br />StephStephaniehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08323989778846355329noreply@blogger.com