tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post7116429120431931541..comments2024-03-19T07:36:33.915-04:00Comments on Of Battered Aspect: Down in Times SquareDave Hingsburgerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11918601687946534172noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-66048977742736617792013-09-25T12:22:33.430-04:002013-09-25T12:22:33.430-04:00I think the word "pride" can be problema...I think the word "pride" can be problematic for some. Different people may understand pride as being at different points of a aggressive-assertive-self respect continuum. So different people enact whatever understanding they have. And one person can have and enact multiple understandings of "pride".<br /><br />Certainly "pride" is useful for raising awareness, organizing and thinking through one's own issues. I do think it's helpful to be aware of the complexity. Hopefully doing so will help us combine pride with humility.<br /><br />Dave, the event you describe sounds like many such people wee there.Atomic Geographyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08433484071529026020noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-41936816889150472482013-09-23T16:24:16.790-04:002013-09-23T16:24:16.790-04:00Thanks, AnNa D, for making me think more about the...Thanks, AnNa D, for making me think more about the issue of identity and pride. It is too long to put here (http://liebjabberings.wordpress.com/2013/09/23/identity-is-a-complex-character-who-are-you-and-how-does-it-affect-your-writing/).<br /><br />Alicia (ABE)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-78438494483880460162013-09-23T15:50:09.965-04:002013-09-23T15:50:09.965-04:00Hi Dave, is there a copy of this video? I couldn...Hi Dave, is there a copy of this video? I couldn't find it on you tube or online....<br /><br />thanks, hope your day is going well! Joannejoann:)https://www.blogger.com/profile/14377333491749182391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-29269942642396936872013-09-23T12:19:17.902-04:002013-09-23T12:19:17.902-04:00When I was 15, I was writing an article about disa...When I was 15, I was writing an article about disability - can't recall the exact circumstances but I digress. I remember asking my mother to proof it for me and she came back with - Jo - you are NOT proud to be disabled - take that out. I wondered for years about this - why is she telling me what I am and am not proud of about myself? Isn't that MY choice? I respect my mom a great deal and have always known that she's incredibly smart so I always have struggled with this. Now as a middle aged person, I AM PROUD of who I am and disability is a big part of that. So ya! Proud and loud - that's me! I am proud of who I am, what I've accomplished despite this ableist society and I will continue to be proud of that until I die. I've always felt that there are large differences between those of us who are congenitally disabled and those who acquire their disabilities - perhaps this is just another example of that great divide amongst us. The former AB's cannot wrap their heads around it as easily because they were once part of that ableism that people like me have lived with all their lives. Jo Kellyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09072719336851076572noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-72887820620189341912013-09-23T00:40:48.800-04:002013-09-23T00:40:48.800-04:00Don't really understand a "proud to be di...Don't really understand a "proud to be disabled' movement. My 'disability' is just a part of me. Would rather encourage respect for diversity, etc. Thanks Dave, Abe and AnNa D for ideas, etc.B.noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-21646187402656229102013-09-22T19:15:02.865-04:002013-09-22T19:15:02.865-04:00I think that things are still very fluid. There is...I think that things are still very fluid. There is a lot of "my kids has rights" attitude.... and yet, wse bend over backward thanking society for the things that should be theirsRickismomhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04078192111057725026noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-5420625833623936712013-09-22T11:15:03.275-04:002013-09-22T11:15:03.275-04:00ABE, Gay people didn't choose to be gay, black...ABE, Gay people didn't choose to be gay, black people didn't choose to be black, women didn't choose to be women ... but the 'pride' movements (though expressed differently in each of those communities) is strong. You may not embrace Disability Pride and you may need to find meaning outside of "disability culture" but many of us are proud of our community, our culture and who we are as disabled people. Your experience is your experience but you need to leave room for people to have different experiences.AnNa Dnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-35858271941871523102013-09-22T08:11:39.236-04:002013-09-22T08:11:39.236-04:00I am not 'proud to be disabled' - I did no...I am not 'proud to be disabled' - I did nothing to choose it and it's not something I would choose for myself again.<br /><br />But I am proud of myself for managing to find meaning in the thing that randomly felled me, made me different.<br /><br />Well, more different: I had my share all along in life of being different.<br /><br />I write. That is mine. Sometimes I write about being disabled - sometimes I write about writing - sometimes I write about the many other things that interest me.<br /><br />What I'm hearing is acceptance: the kids with Down Syndrome - and the adults with it, too, of course - and their families accept. Don't try to change what can't be changed - and find meaning in the rest of their life.<br /><br />It's the job of everyone who gets born.<br />ABE (Alicia)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-70273545452712406642013-09-22T07:59:18.818-04:002013-09-22T07:59:18.818-04:00It is always wonderful to see signs and elements o...It is always wonderful to see signs and elements of the "fruits" of a social movement. They are often at moments like you and Joe had yesterday. Unexpected and in your face. 40 years ago shame and struggle were common familial attributes when a family member arrived with DS. Now, there the family takes a breath, gets some early intervention stuff and learns how to best support their loved one, Then they buy some T-shirts in PRIDE of the person in their family. Happy DS Day! Thanks Dave!John R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09855575688523179265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-51813193882620597252013-09-22T07:09:26.347-04:002013-09-22T07:09:26.347-04:00Thank you Dave...as a parent of a child with Ds. ...Thank you Dave...as a parent of a child with Ds. We've been on our journey just 6 years. Ever since that day we were told our son would have a little something extra, the Ds community has been there for us-like a second family. Sometimes even more "there for us" than our own flesh and blood. We love our lives and proud to share. Love the Times Square Video!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-52432310398214556902013-09-22T07:08:54.368-04:002013-09-22T07:08:54.368-04:00Sounds a great show of great images and will light...Sounds a great show of great images and will lighten everyone's day Im sure. I love those tee shirts too, fun and out there!Jayne Waleshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14453464335047666502noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-23400944410352363002013-09-22T05:55:44.521-04:002013-09-22T05:55:44.521-04:00Wonderfully written as always Dave.
Wonderfully written as always Dave.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com