tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post3785173656941341361..comments2024-03-16T19:36:23.953-04:00Comments on Of Battered Aspect: Done and DustedDave Hingsburgerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11918601687946534172noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-15389830956809507262012-02-02T19:45:22.956-05:002012-02-02T19:45:22.956-05:00Nan, you said "it may not be true for all stu...Nan, you said "it may not be true for all students" -- in fact it IS true for non-disabled students as well.<br /><br />Watch this vid.<br /><a href="http://youtu.be/gFmFOmprTt0" rel="nofollow">Learned helplessness</a><br /><br />The important part is up to about 4:30 - after that she goes into social implications such as dating.Shanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704810407872873565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-4513246277599461002012-02-01T18:12:47.680-05:002012-02-01T18:12:47.680-05:00It's in for consideration for a peer reviewed ...It's in for consideration for a peer reviewed journal. I'm not sure what the availablity will be as I've not published with them before. But, never fear, I'll let people know what's up when I know.Dave Hingsburgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11918601687946534172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-78637905732654559342012-02-01T18:04:18.292-05:002012-02-01T18:04:18.292-05:00Will it be publicly available once the editors etc...Will it be publicly available once the editors etc are done with it? I really want to read it. Did you submit it to a peer-reviewed journal, or some sort of internal thing at Vita?Ettinahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08230821659466586897noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-11683344724757601762012-02-01T17:27:30.568-05:002012-02-01T17:27:30.568-05:00A rule of thumb for our daughter,when first learni...A rule of thumb for our daughter,when first learning a skill/concpet/to read/to count etc. ... is to teach to success. This, for many with Down syndrome, is the best way to learn. Through success. This works as well for learning lines of scripts! (so we break them down into tiny increments, so, for example when learning a clown monologue from Two Gentlemen of Verona [yes, she's a Shakespeare addict] we start with the first line until she's go it each time, then add a line, until she's got it etc... and in no time she knows the whole monologue. But if we start with the whole thing she often doesn't learn it and thinks she is incapable) While it may not be true for all students, it is often true for students with Down syndrome. So confidence (and success) sure helps in developing mastery, for many.<br />thanks for the research . . .Nanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10375461078977866753noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-69065163363340056362012-02-01T14:18:18.692-05:002012-02-01T14:18:18.692-05:00Alison, thanks for your comment. I am sure you can...Alison, thanks for your comment. I am sure you can appreciate that this is a blog post, not a scientific presentation of data. I just wanted to make the point that in our trainings where confidence increased the scores were much, much higher. The actual paper is over 20 pages long and has all the methodology laid out there. I cannot publish it here for obvious reasons and thus have been purposely vague - only wanting to bring forward something that I thought could be usable to readers, especially parents - make sure that, when you teach, you bolster confidence. I think this is a tidbit to remember and worthy of a blog post. I'll let people know if the article is accepted and published and then will be able to be a little more forthcoming.Dave Hingsburgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11918601687946534172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-42934709484458604322012-02-01T12:44:30.555-05:002012-02-01T12:44:30.555-05:00Well, re: Alison's comment, above: consider th...Well, re: Alison's comment, above: consider the parade rained! As my ex boyfriend used to say, "kaboom."<br /><br />As to the post itself, that phenomenon is part of "learned helplessness", which I recently found out about through a YouTube referral. It has made a huge difference in how I homeschool.Shanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10704810407872873565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-50744898828894524012012-02-01T12:36:58.750-05:002012-02-01T12:36:58.750-05:00Thank you Dave (and Joe),
for having an interestin...Thank you Dave (and Joe),<br />for having an interesting place to come back to.<br /><br />:-)<br /><br />JuliaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-82246069216513721022012-02-01T12:19:36.424-05:002012-02-01T12:19:36.424-05:00It reminds me of a Jack Layton quote that I keep c...It reminds me of a Jack Layton quote that I keep close at hand. "My friends, love is better than anger. Hope is better than fear. Optimism is better than despair. So let us be loving, hopeful and optimistic. And we'll change the world.Princeton Possenoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-65694482654366626202012-02-01T09:59:34.653-05:002012-02-01T09:59:34.653-05:00To Andrea’s point, evem without an explicit messag...To Andrea’s point, evem without an explicit message, being asked for your sex and/or ethnicity beside your name at the top of the test will push down test scores if you are a woman or from the African diaspora. <br /><br />To Dave’s point, was there any kind of control? Post-test scores are <i>always</i> higher than pre-test scores even if there is no formal training between. That is, if 50 people take a pre-test at 9h00, 25 people do a workshop, then all 50 take a post-test at 16h00, everyone’s scores will improve. The measure of the effectiveness of the workshop is how much the participants’ test scores improve relative to the non-participants.<br /><br />I don’t mean to rain on your parade — I am sure your results are great. Huge improvements are unlikely to be the result of familiarity with the test or the chance to think about it on one’s own for a few hours. It’s just a question of how to present results (and possibly how to improve evaluations that you intend to publish for next time).<br /><br />Congratulations!Alison Cumminshttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06370841996857073237noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-49944603768946151642012-02-01T09:31:01.642-05:002012-02-01T09:31:01.642-05:00My wisest professor taught me that one must always...My wisest professor taught me that one must always offer a bit of genuine hope to a client in order to show empathy, support change,validate the person or whatever term is being used to describe how therapy works this is hope measured and quantified and shared in terms that bureaucrats and evaluators can begin to believe! Thanks for sharing the hope and transforming it into data and analysis. It is needed to show what you know with heart and soul.Clairesmumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-59431649749649791292012-02-01T07:06:23.642-05:002012-02-01T07:06:23.642-05:00Julia, glad you are doing better!
Dave, I vaguely...Julia, glad you are doing better!<br /><br />Dave, I vaguely remember reading a study somewhere where students from different ethnic backgrounds were given some standardized test. If students of color were told that "students of color tend to do poorly on this test" then test scores immediately went down. But if they were told that students of color did fine, then test scores were higher. Confidence can make a huge and immediate difference indeed.Andrea S.http://gdrl.orgnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-38982426179466610402012-02-01T05:40:13.476-05:002012-02-01T05:40:13.476-05:00Julia, welcome back! I did wonder where you had go...Julia, welcome back! I did wonder where you had gone and hoped that you were OK. Nice to hear from you again. Thanks for continuing to be part of this community! We all make a difference in each other's lives.Dave Hingsburgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11918601687946534172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-71516083375288199282012-02-01T05:20:56.815-05:002012-02-01T05:20:56.815-05:00Sorry worse not worth....
dang sometimes you real...Sorry worse not worth....<br /><br />dang sometimes you really notice that englisch ist not my native language....<br />JuliaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-37343747034398871832012-02-01T01:16:38.437-05:002012-02-01T01:16:38.437-05:00"The world will change", and thanks to p..."The world will change", and thanks to people like you it will change into something better not worth!<br /><br />Sorry that I havent commented for a longer time or participated in the day of remembering an mourning. I had bad kidney problems. Now I am better. <br /><br />Thank you for going on writing and researching. Your blog certainly makes a diference for me.<br /><br />JuliaAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com