tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post3362954872436981084..comments2024-03-19T07:36:33.915-04:00Comments on Of Battered Aspect: Let's Go IdahoDave Hingsburgerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11918601687946534172noreply@blogger.comBlogger20125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-88960687706787846492008-10-16T12:07:00.000-04:002008-10-16T12:07:00.000-04:00I think bigtry is bad and diversity is god. Thank...I think bigtry is bad and diversity is god. Thank to all who did that thing.<BR/><BR/><BR/>Hugh PharrtedAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-41333570857605883042008-10-15T15:54:00.000-04:002008-10-15T15:54:00.000-04:00Usually when someone uses foul language it's becau...Usually when someone uses foul language it's because of the shock value. I don't get shocked, instead I usually just think- what an idiot, must be a liberal. I think they are looking for acceptance and so are the ones who defend such language. They have a low self-esteem and are willing to seek acceptance from anyone. We live in a day and age where right is reviled and wrong is called right (abortion, homosexuality, etc..) people know in their hearts it is wrong but they still rebel by celebrating it.<BR/><BR/>Buell SchmidtAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-20187357307221536762008-10-15T00:59:00.000-04:002008-10-15T00:59:00.000-04:00I attended the conference in Boise. I thought that...I attended the conference in Boise. I thought that Dave really hit it on the nose about bulling and and teasing. I work with indivisuals with disabilities and also have a child with a disability. I have seen what people do and say to the people I work with and until today I never realized what my child was going through until she came home and told me that kids at school were calling her stupid and saying that they hated her. She cried when they said this to her. Someone at school told her to just ignore it.I don't want her to be the girl that he talked about. I will use the things he told us in the conference to help her out. We will not just ignore it.R Woodhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11919769078370600869noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-14677585243783658482008-10-14T05:33:00.000-04:002008-10-14T05:33:00.000-04:00Frank, you can't tell the difference between name ...Frank, you can't tell the difference between name calling, bigotted assaults and the use of a curse word like 'shit'? I think you have some growing up to do.<BR/><BR/>JanAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-85634113267506964422008-10-14T00:32:00.000-04:002008-10-14T00:32:00.000-04:00I think the language used is just a further coarse...I think the language used is just a further coarsening of our society. We are to accept offensive language and then are expected to not use language that offends the offender(the "R" word. A little hypocrisy? Perhaps.<BR/><BR/>Frank N. SteinAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-91913337838243877612008-10-13T20:31:00.000-04:002008-10-13T20:31:00.000-04:00Kudos to you I was at this conference and thank yo...Kudos to you I was at this conference and thank you for your honesty and your stories I would not have had you change a single word I found it to be refreshing that the stories were not altered and reflected the individuals whom you were talking about to change their words is an injustice to them if people were to busy hanging on what they perceive as foul language then they obviously missed the point and did not hear the message I heard you loud and clear and the people that I care for will benefit from this Thank you I am a refreshed human service workerAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-27196762800989341592008-10-13T19:15:00.000-04:002008-10-13T19:15:00.000-04:00I prefer not to get into these things, but in this...I prefer not to get into these things, but in this case, I will. Before I do any lecture where I will use 'colourful' language, I speak to organizers and ask them if the audience will be offended by the remarks. If they ask me to remove any such language, I do. In Boise, as in other places, I met with organizers the night before and asked them, they assured me that they wished me to present my workshops in the way that I intended. Too, in my day long workshops if I am going to use any language that wouldn't be heard on television (for example the 'f' word)I warn the audience before the story so that they can step out if they'd like. I did this in Boise, I don't recall but I don't think anyone left.<BR/><BR/>People have choices, as do I. As I tell stories that arise from real life, sometimes the real way the people speak sifts into the stories. To change the language of someone with a disability for the sensitibilities of another seems wrong to me. To alter the truth in an effort to non-offend - then the stories seem made up and unreal. It is the problem with doing a lecture that uses stories to illustrate points.<BR/><BR/>Too, I have to say that I get offended when people, who could come and talk to me at a conference, I don't hide. Wait and then publish this kind of thing on my blog or elsewhere. If you had the courage of your convictions - I do - then you would come and speak to me personally.<BR/><BR/>This is all I wish to say on this topic.Dave Hingsburgerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11918601687946534172noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-35286328862062503062008-10-13T14:58:00.000-04:002008-10-13T14:58:00.000-04:00I have to agree with "flatulator". Too many peopl...I have to agree with "flatulator". Too many people are too ready and willing to celebrate those who use foul language and lift them up as if they are somehow something special. As proof of this, just watch the comments following this one. People will jump on this and tear what I've said apart (and attack me personally).<BR/><BR/>Hairston P. JasperAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-9163144051622563452008-10-13T14:15:00.000-04:002008-10-13T14:15:00.000-04:00To those of you who cheer and enjoy foul language ...To those of you who cheer and enjoy foul language and crude behavior- you are one wheel short of a full trailer court.<BR/><BR/>The FlatulatorAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-46816646484915665672008-10-13T11:16:00.000-04:002008-10-13T11:16:00.000-04:00I have been to many presentations throughout our c...I have been to many presentations throughout our country. I have to say that attending this conference actually changed me as a person and a professional. What a moving experience. Thank you for blessing us with your presence in Idaho Dave!Lexihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13482333018154389077noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-20461159590749196012008-10-12T05:03:00.000-04:002008-10-12T05:03:00.000-04:00I was there at the conference and I want to say tw...I was there at the conference and I want to say two things. Dave got a standing ovation from 500 people and in each class, each day, there were more people there at the end of the day than at the beginning. I've enver seen that before.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-20625895022603199992008-10-12T01:38:00.000-04:002008-10-12T01:38:00.000-04:00To Anonymous...What kind of coward writes such a c...To Anonymous...<BR/><BR/>What kind of coward writes such a comment without at least using their name?<BR/><BR/>Oh...I bet you know the answer to that question.<BR/><BR/>To Dave and other readers of this blog...<BR/><BR/>I know I shouldn't dignify that comment with my response but it just pissed me off to read such slander!<BR/><BR/>Having said that, my name is Rita Grace Tupin.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-32720051436918522642008-10-11T18:19:00.000-04:002008-10-11T18:19:00.000-04:00To "anonymous", re your "foul mouthed and crude" c...To "anonymous", re your "foul mouthed and crude" comment - <BR/><BR/>Point #1: If you weren't there you have no business commenting in such a destructive way. I wasn't there, you weren't there, who the hell do you think _you_ are submitting an editorial comment about it? (and oh - pardon my foul mouth and crudeness)<BR/><BR/>Point #2: "Foul . . . and crude" are better descriptors of the physical and social conditions that some people with disabilities have had to live with over the years, than they are descriptors of the language Dave and other advocates use to name what _is_. <BR/><BR/>In other words - don't shoot the messenger.<BR/><BR/>Dave - as always, thanks for your candor.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-17829591157217576922008-10-11T16:04:00.000-04:002008-10-11T16:04:00.000-04:00I heard you were foul-mouthed and crude at the cpi...I heard you were foul-mouthed and crude at the cpi conference. what a shame.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-41161893363389567172008-10-11T14:41:00.000-04:002008-10-11T14:41:00.000-04:00Thank you Dave...that is what it is going to take,...Thank you Dave...that is what it is going to take, and sadly it will sometimes be a hard battle, as my oldest duaghter just recently found out from a college room-mate. She has respectfully discussed the usage of the 'R' word around her with her room-mates, on many occassions. The other week, one of her room-mates was using it and she 'called' him on it......he got sarcastic and then used the word 'Mongoloid' instead, on purpose to try and hurt her. <BR/><BR/>I had to explain to her that that type of ignorance is even more hurtful than when people use it carelessly, absent mindedly and from poor habit....this crossed over into hatred.<BR/><BR/>I personally don't understand when others use words to cut.<BR/><BR/>Thank you for flying to Boise....any chance you can fly to St. Augustine, FL?Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12628921554027431376noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-5084785242888294902008-10-11T08:02:00.000-04:002008-10-11T08:02:00.000-04:00I haven't written in a while but am back. Great t...I haven't written in a while but am back. <BR/><BR/> Great to learn of the progressive hearts in Idaho. <BR/><BR/>Last month I had to visit a team of my staff who "mistakenly" brought several people we support to see Tropic Thunder. The staff saw the movie, felt NO PROBLEM with what they saw and the folks we support apparently felt that there was no issue with language or portrayal. Yikes.....<BR/><BR/>After a very intense and anger-filled meeting, and after I showed them the volumes of critical material and protest about the movie and issue, they had the epiphany. The epiphany was this: "Wow...bigotry is subtle and the road to being a bigot ends with educating oneself and admitting to ignorance." <BR/><BR/> This was a painful meeting but in the end was a bit of a confessional and an encounter group about the concept of bigotry. The "r" word has stopped with this team. I know they will spread the word and help end disphobia.John R.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09855575688523179265noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-3963161791016489602008-10-11T03:25:00.000-04:002008-10-11T03:25:00.000-04:00Dave,I am ever so grateful to have been able to at...Dave,<BR/>I am ever so grateful to have been able to attend this conference and not only hear your keynotes speech but the classes you taught both days! You have truely brought a lot of insight into my daily life not only in my job working with people with disabilities but also with my own children. I have 7 children 6 of them have disabilities. I wish I knew then what I know now, I could have been such a greater help to them. the important thing is that I can apply what I have learned to them still and to those I serve on a daily basis. Thank you so much for coming to Idaho and look foward to a conference with you again.PuzzleLoverhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16104866351311744728noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-30471885861406399282008-10-10T16:28:00.000-04:002008-10-10T16:28:00.000-04:00I have goose bumps all over me, you know, like whe...I have goose bumps all over me, you know, like when you hear something wonderful and your whole body reacts. I also have tears in my eyes and a runny nose! Wow Dave, I feel like jumping up on a soap box, or leading a cheer, or marching in a parade. Way to go Dave! You scored a touchdown for our team, and the winning touchdown at that!!! That is the stuff a hero is made of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-84007366411378469752008-10-10T13:38:00.000-04:002008-10-10T13:38:00.000-04:00Hey, Dave, I just HAVE to stop and celebrate this ...Hey, Dave, I just HAVE to stop and celebrate this moment with you.<BR/><BR/>Hooray!!!! <BR/><BR/>What a great legacy to leave in Idaho. (Understatement!!!)Susanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12527926041729913404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-35743239.post-78351104962339454832008-10-10T11:58:00.000-04:002008-10-10T11:58:00.000-04:00A very hopeful post! You definitely left Idaho be...A very hopeful post! You definitely left Idaho better than you found it.Cynthiahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12090051661613157087noreply@blogger.com